Snyder is really intelligent and uses big words that i have never heard of and its hard to follow sometimes. He talks about trying to slow down the social and cultural process through poetry. He believes that if we write a lot of good poems now it will create ecological stabilization. I think that this is a good idea to express his feelings though poetry because a lot of other people will be willing to read good poetry and might relate to it.
Well Snyder's poetry is complicated, and I don't always follow it, so it must be good. What I do understand is his concept of the "great orderliness in nature", and I think that it is an idea that makes perfect sense if the world is in fact one big organism. His sense of wonderment at and understanding of the world is inspiring.
The more and more I hear this man's poems new parts of the world seem to be opening up and new opportunities seem to appear. He talks about how things come and go and what happens is going to happen and we really can not do anything about it after it is done. Huge events will come and go and life seems to get fancier with time. This is said in his poem and is described as "calligraphy." What interested me the most was when he was talking about how phenomenal these natural forces are that pretty much occur everyday. The forces that are at work and what will make a bird travel 1500 miles. Also, he begins to question the human mind and what it really is. Everything he says is extremely interesting.
Snyder's poetry is most often very truthful. "You can't shortcut history," Snyder says, speaking of the way history should be told. Though poetry is often conceived as literature that is supposed to sound "soft" or "nice," Snyder is not afraid of using harsher words or words that do not necessarily sound nice, yet truthfully describe what he is seeing.
I would be lying if I said that I understood most of Snyder's work. As Lindsay said, he does have quite the vocabulary — which, at times, makes me lose attention to what I'm listening to. But I am very able to pick up his concept of, as Will said,"great orderliness in nature."
The poem that started this video plays off of his comments on the the beat and counter-culture of the 20th century. The first poem explains that our government and main-stream culture is unstable, not open to new ideas (beat and counter-culture), gets involved with horrendous tragedies and political embarrassments like Vietnam and the attempt of silencing young protesters. To contrast, the counter-culture values team-work, equality, the importance of strong communities, etc. as shown by their efforts to build houses and building together as a team, and as a community. The point: the young men and women of the counter culture figured out how to work together as a whole unit where as the rest of the country continues to struggle with this.
Everything he says was very interesting although I do not quite understand what he is trying to say due to the unnecessarily vocabularies that he uses. He talks about how history just flows even if we try to deny or ignore it. He wants history to be the way it is—unbiased by writers.
The poem that is about 'a mouse, a hawk, the glibbery (?) of something, a freeway in Los Angeles' talks about how nature lives right next to civilization. Snyder compares the complexity and completeness of nature with civilization and says that we will never fully understand nature - but we can give it a try. He says that life isnt like a clock - its more like imagination, because life varies all the time.
its not so much as his vocabulary as his monotone and his semi-passive, indirect style of speaking. once you get past that, things become somewhat more lucid. to be honest though, his poetry seems to take itself too seriously and that is really where the message gets lost.
Not only his vocabulary uses made his poetry complicated, but also his concept of "ecology" which I am not familiar with made his poetry difficult. But, I can still see that he has really interesting idea.
Snyder's comment on karma throughout history makes sense because it describes events of today. Global warming and deforestation are excellent examples of karma coming back to bite us. By industrializing, we began destroying our planet and all of it's resources. The poem about highway calligraphy is very deep.
Snyder has very interesting ideas and opinions. I like his comment about change and how "the whole social and cultural process is going to have to work itself out infinitely slower," compared to individuals. I also found his poems he read to be very deep and contained good messages.
Snyder's word choice is very interesting. Other poets use more poetic words, or almost musical patterns. Snyder is different in that his words are not particularly harmonic by themselves. I would call his words a middle point, between rough words and poetic ones. They transmit ideas and spark images well though, and that's what Snyder is after. By tossing ideas (words) in at times very unexpectedly, Snyder creates a harmonic jumble of unharmonic words, that together, in their seemingly jumbled order, sound very nice.
When Snyder is talking he is almost melodic. His voice is calm and smooth and almost resonates within your ears. When talking he uses a large vocabulary to accentuate his ideas and thoughts. He continues ranting on his ideas of "ecology" and how it affects his poetry and his life.
AHHH This guy is so cool. I really think it's cool when people can relate theoretical knowledge (like school) to real work (understanding how to physically do something or witness it) to anything and everything. His ability to draw conclusions is fantastic. I like his writing, too. I enjoy when people can properly manipulate words instead of writing poetry that sounds like writing without punctuation beaten to death by a thick archaic thesaurus. It's very interesting to listen to poetry read by it's author.
Snyder is really intelligent and uses big words that i have never heard of and its hard to follow sometimes. He talks about trying to slow down the social and cultural process through poetry. He believes that if we write a lot of good poems now it will create ecological stabilization. I think that this is a good idea to express his feelings though poetry because a lot of other people will be willing to read good poetry and might relate to it.
ReplyDeleteWell Snyder's poetry is complicated, and I don't always follow it, so it must be good. What I do understand is his concept of the "great orderliness in nature", and I think that it is an idea that makes perfect sense if the world is in fact one big organism. His sense of wonderment at and understanding of the world is inspiring.
ReplyDeleteThe more and more I hear this man's poems new parts of the world seem to be opening up and new opportunities seem to appear. He talks about how things come and go and what happens is going to happen and we really can not do anything about it after it is done. Huge events will come and go and life seems to get fancier with time. This is said in his poem and is described as "calligraphy." What interested me the most was when he was talking about how phenomenal these natural forces are that pretty much occur everyday. The forces that are at work and what will make a bird travel 1500 miles. Also, he begins to question the human mind and what it really is. Everything he says is extremely interesting.
ReplyDeleteSnyder's poetry is most often very truthful. "You can't shortcut history," Snyder says, speaking of the way history should be told. Though poetry is often conceived as literature that is supposed to sound "soft" or "nice," Snyder is not afraid of using harsher words or words that do not necessarily sound nice, yet truthfully describe what he is seeing.
ReplyDeleteI would be lying if I said that I understood most of Snyder's work. As Lindsay said, he does have quite the vocabulary — which, at times, makes me lose attention to what I'm listening to. But I am very able to pick up his concept of, as Will said,"great orderliness in nature."
ReplyDeleteThe poem that started this video plays off of his comments on the the beat and counter-culture of the 20th century. The first poem explains that our government and main-stream culture is unstable, not open to new ideas (beat and counter-culture), gets involved with horrendous tragedies and political embarrassments like Vietnam and the attempt of silencing young protesters. To contrast, the counter-culture values team-work, equality, the importance of strong communities, etc. as shown by their efforts to build houses and building together as a team, and as a community. The point: the young men and women of the counter culture figured out how to work together as a whole unit where as the rest of the country continues to struggle with this.
ReplyDeleteEverything he says was very interesting although I do not quite understand what he is trying to say due to the unnecessarily vocabularies that he uses. He talks about how history just flows even if we try to deny or ignore it. He wants history to be the way it is—unbiased by writers.
ReplyDeleteThe poem that is about 'a mouse, a hawk, the glibbery (?) of something, a freeway in Los Angeles' talks about how nature lives right next to civilization. Snyder compares the complexity and completeness of nature with civilization and says that we will never fully understand nature - but we can give it a try. He says that life isnt like a clock - its more like imagination, because life varies all the time.
ReplyDeleteits not so much as his vocabulary as his monotone and his semi-passive, indirect style of speaking. once you get past that, things become somewhat more lucid. to be honest though, his poetry seems to take itself too seriously and that is really where the message gets lost.
ReplyDeleteNot only his vocabulary uses made his poetry complicated, but also his concept of "ecology" which I am not familiar with made his poetry difficult. But, I can still see that he has really interesting idea.
ReplyDeleteSnyder's comment on karma throughout history makes sense because it describes events of today. Global warming and deforestation are excellent examples of karma coming back to bite us. By industrializing, we began destroying our planet and all of it's resources. The poem about highway calligraphy is very deep.
ReplyDeleteSnyder has very interesting ideas and opinions. I like his comment about change and how "the whole social and cultural process is going to have to work itself out infinitely slower," compared to individuals. I also found his poems he read to be very deep and contained good messages.
ReplyDeleteSnyder's word choice is very interesting. Other poets use more poetic words, or almost musical patterns. Snyder is different in that his words are not particularly harmonic by themselves. I would call his words a middle point, between rough words and poetic ones. They transmit ideas and spark images well though, and that's what Snyder is after. By tossing ideas (words) in at times very unexpectedly, Snyder creates a harmonic jumble of unharmonic words, that together, in their seemingly jumbled order, sound very nice.
ReplyDeleteWhen Snyder is talking he is almost melodic. His voice is calm and smooth and almost resonates within your ears. When talking he uses a large vocabulary to accentuate his ideas and thoughts. He continues ranting on his ideas of "ecology" and how it affects his poetry and his life.
ReplyDeleteAHHH This guy is so cool. I really think it's cool when people can relate theoretical knowledge (like school) to real work (understanding how to physically do something or witness it) to anything and everything. His ability to draw conclusions is fantastic. I like his writing, too. I enjoy when people can properly manipulate words instead of writing poetry that sounds like writing without punctuation beaten to death by a thick archaic thesaurus. It's very interesting to listen to poetry read by it's author.
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