I enjoyed the last poem that Snyder read (i think it was called "Right in the Trail') and how he related it to mythological story about the girl and bear. I liked how he took something really funny like looking at the bears waste but by looking at it saw the story of the girl and the bear. By looking at the bear's dropping he learns about how the girl lived with the bear and the bear taught her proper manners.
I enjoyed the second poem as well. Snyder's interest in mythology corresponds well with his openness to make humor of stories that are originally taken seriously. Taking a story of a young girl that marries a bear, he uses what he has come to understand about the behavior of bears from personal experience, and weaves this simple truth with a deep, meaningful story to in a way create a contrasting story posessing some humor.
I back up Synder on everything he says and I strongly agree with him that poetry is an art that is beautiful and many ways. Nature has much to teach us and is the creator of everything on this planet and will be here long after we are gone. Synder's second poem is an excellent example of how nature has taught us much and the fact that he adds his own twists of humor to life lessons is amazing.
Snyder continues to intrigue me. His sense of humor is odd and ear-catching, and his voice is calm, but full of tone. Part of me wanted to write this response without watching it, due to my 21st-century attention span, but he held my attention — even though I didn't want him to. I'm glad I did though. The way he speaks about aging and life is very unique. Like Lindsay and Maggie, I was really digging the bear poem — I've never heard such enthusiasm about bear scat.
Snyder's poems are complicated. I find his poem structure confusing, and I don't always get what he is trying to say. An underlying theme that I have been able to pick out is the interconnectedness of all things.
The bear poem seemed to be making the point that, we are not the only creatures on this planet, and who are we to see ourselves as "civilized" or higher than other creatures? We all share this planet and we should, as the bears wanted, to live as equals within it.
Gary Snyder is talking about the interconnection of things in the planet, and we are supposed to respect the nature where we belong. Like Will, I am also confused by the structure of the poem. But his message is very insightful.
his poems tell great stories but they appear to be just that, stories. they almost seem to be like someone took a short story and tried to turn it into a poem. they do take interesting views on the topics the are dealing with however, specifically, social interaction within a sauna, and the evolvement of a relationship between a girl and a bear.
I also liked the second poem, but I could not fin the underlying theme of the poem. It sounds like a superficial story that may appear in Aesop's fable. Although it is meant to be a poem, it more sounds like a story to me. His structure of poem is obviously different from the mainstream of poetry.
These poems reflected the more humorous side Snyder, while having an odd sense of humor it is able to make one laugh as well as think. The poems also show the more humorous side of life as well, when a person looks at animal scat, they never wonder about what the animal did to make the scat. They just pass it by and are disgusted. The way that Snyder takes past literature and myths and ties it into his poems, shows a deep respect toward the past poets and cultures.
Snyder has a way of using very simple descriptive language. He describes simple actions, simple senses, and experiences. He is not very abstract with how he describes a scene, so that most every reader/listener can fully appreciate his message, his poetry. Many poets do not do this, and instead achieve their art in abstraction. Snyder has taped into a powerful way of language, and his way of description allows him to use this simple language, yet have a strong message.
German says. Snyder uses humour in his poems quite effectively. I dont really understand why Holger says this, I think that Snyder often uses unnecessary vocabwords that I dont understand; I need to watch most of the videos twice until I know what he is trying to say. I like how he makes break between his sentences, that eases the understandability.
The first poem is kind of interesting. I'm having issues determining his view on the relationship between being naked for the sake of being naked and sexuality, or maybe it's just all in the same boat. Life seems to be so casual in this poem. It traces time with the summer and the age, very cyclic.
I would never marry a bear. Just throwing that out there.
I really like the concept of animals trying to get along with each other. With the bears being the 'bigger person'. Ironic saying, I know.
I like the flirting between humor and serious uplift in the second poem. It's capturing because he seems to be so incredibly self aware. I really liked it.
I enjoyed the last poem that Snyder read (i think it was called "Right in the Trail') and how he related it to mythological story about the girl and bear. I liked how he took something really funny like looking at the bears waste but by looking at it saw the story of the girl and the bear. By looking at the bear's dropping he learns about how the girl lived with the bear and the bear taught her proper manners.
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed the second poem as well. Snyder's interest in mythology corresponds well with his openness to make humor of stories that are originally taken seriously. Taking a story of a young girl that marries a bear, he uses what he has come to understand about the behavior of bears from personal experience, and weaves this simple truth with a deep, meaningful story to in a way create a contrasting story posessing some humor.
ReplyDeleteI back up Synder on everything he says and I strongly agree with him that poetry is an art that is beautiful and many ways. Nature has much to teach us and is the creator of everything on this planet and will be here long after we are gone. Synder's second poem is an excellent example of how nature has taught us much and the fact that he adds his own twists of humor to life lessons is amazing.
ReplyDeleteSnyder continues to intrigue me. His sense of humor is odd and ear-catching, and his voice is calm, but full of tone. Part of me wanted to write this response without watching it, due to my 21st-century attention span, but he held my attention — even though I didn't want him to. I'm glad I did though. The way he speaks about aging and life is very unique. Like Lindsay and Maggie, I was really digging the bear poem — I've never heard such enthusiasm about bear scat.
ReplyDeleteSnyder's poems are complicated. I find his poem structure confusing, and I don't always get what he is trying to say. An underlying theme that I have been able to pick out is the interconnectedness of all things.
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ReplyDeleteThe bear poem seemed to be making the point that, we are not the only creatures on this planet, and who are we to see ourselves as "civilized" or higher than other creatures? We all share this planet and we should, as the bears wanted, to live as equals within it.
Gary Snyder is talking about the interconnection of things in the planet, and we are supposed to respect the nature where we belong. Like Will, I am also confused by the structure of the poem. But his message is very insightful.
ReplyDeletehis poems tell great stories but they appear to be just that, stories. they almost seem to be like someone took a short story and tried to turn it into a poem. they do take interesting views on the topics the are dealing with however, specifically, social interaction within a sauna, and the evolvement of a relationship between a girl and a bear.
ReplyDeleteI also liked the second poem, but I could not fin the underlying theme of the poem. It sounds like a superficial story that may appear in Aesop's fable. Although it is meant to be a poem, it more sounds like a story to me. His structure of poem is obviously different from the mainstream of poetry.
ReplyDeleteThese poems reflected the more humorous side Snyder, while having an odd sense of humor it is able to make one laugh as well as think. The poems also show the more humorous side of life as well, when a person looks at animal scat, they never wonder about what the animal did to make the scat. They just pass it by and are disgusted. The way that Snyder takes past literature and myths and ties it into his poems, shows a deep respect toward the past poets and cultures.
ReplyDeleteSnyder has a way of using very simple descriptive language. He describes simple actions, simple senses, and experiences. He is not very abstract with how he describes a scene, so that most every reader/listener can fully appreciate his message, his poetry. Many poets do not do this, and instead achieve their art in abstraction. Snyder has taped into a powerful way of language, and his way of description allows him to use this simple language, yet have a strong message.
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ReplyDeleteSnyder uses humour in his poems quite effectively. I dont really understand why Holger says this, I think that Snyder often uses unnecessary vocabwords that I dont understand; I need to watch most of the videos twice until I know what he is trying to say.
I like how he makes break between his sentences, that eases the understandability.
The first poem is kind of interesting. I'm having issues determining his view on the relationship between being naked for the sake of being naked and sexuality, or maybe it's just all in the same boat. Life seems to be so casual in this poem. It traces time with the summer and the age, very cyclic.
ReplyDeleteI would never marry a bear.
Just throwing that out there.
I really like the concept of animals trying to get along with each other. With the bears being the 'bigger person'. Ironic saying, I know.
I like the flirting between humor and serious uplift in the second poem. It's capturing because he seems to be so incredibly self aware. I really liked it.